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  #12930 Posted 3 Years, 5 Months ago
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has anyone really noticed the quality of the guitars you ca now get coming from KoranS?

look at epiphones... they have increased a lot in finish and quality..playability..

i have tried a Cort PRS copy yesterday and was erally surprised at how well the guitar is built..and the price is CHEAP..

any experiences?
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  #12931 Posted 3 Years, 5 Months ago
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Well, hell, there's a big difference in attitude and desire between someone getting paid $20 per hour and someone getting paid $20 per month...

Point is, Korean wage rates have risen to the point where they can't afford to make cheap guitars anymore--they have to move toward the higher end stuff. That's why they've moved their low-end production to lower wage countries.
Well, if crime fighters fight crime and fire fighters fight fire, what do freedom fighters fight? They never mention that part to us, do they?
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  #12933 Posted 3 Years, 5 Months ago
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Who gives a rats ass? Cutting down a tree and building a quality instrument are two entirely different things. But since you play
Ovation and Dean (LOL!) I doubt you would know the difference.
Where do they grow the plastic on your piece of shit guitar?
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  #12934 Posted 3 Years, 5 Months ago
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READ THE POST IDIOT
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  #12936 Posted 3 Years, 5 Months ago
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Remmo my friend, where do you think the Orientals procure their wood from?
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  #12938 Posted 3 Years, 5 Months ago
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You're kidding right? Quality is improving, but I wouldn't rank any of it among the best. Name one Korean acoustic guitar that is as good or better than the best American made acoustic. Or Canadian for that matter.
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  #12940 Posted 3 Years, 5 Months ago
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And a few years from now, perhaps Fender & Gibson will be hiring Korean consultants in an effort to raise their manufacturing quality!

The sooner the better, I say.

"Made in U.S.A." (at least for guitars) has come to mean you'll pay a lot more for little or no improvement in build quality, sometimes even inferior build quality. The manufacturers know it, that's why they put so much emphasis on quality of materials -- on craftsmanship they haven't a leg to stand on. Time was they had both sides of the equation happening...

30-40 years from now, some of the Epi models will be worth nearly as much as the equivalent Gibsons.
Just as now, people are realizing the quality of the Japanese Fenders from the '80's, so it will go with many Korean guitars.
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  #12941 Posted 3 Years, 5 Months ago
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I knew Frank Zappa was going to figure into all of this sooner or later...

now you are really screwed http://www.infernalpress.com/Columns/election.html
http://www.scoop.co.nz/mason/stories/HL0307/S00065.htm
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  #12944 Posted 3 Years, 5 Months ago
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Which is why Samick bought Kohler & Campbell and Knabe, both formerly
US-made. They've also been making a lot of Baldwin's line for about 20 years! You wouldn't mind buying one of them, would you?

Part of the secret of Samick's success is that they hire in Western technology and expertise. Their top-end pianos have long been overseen by
Klaus Fenner. They're now control Germany's Bechstein too. Can't do much better than that!
poorly made because of >the country of origin. Silly, if you ask me.

It's called racism. And that unhealthy American desire to be dominant in everything. Leave a few crumbs for the rest of the world, eh?

The point is, after all, the pleasure you get from the instrument, isn't it?

Personally, I like the sense of fantasy that the Asian manufacturers bring--who else could re-release the Danelectros?
Well, if crime fighters fight crime and fire fighters fight fire, what do freedom fighters fight? They never mention that part to us, do they?
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  #12945 Posted 3 Years, 5 Months ago
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Woo.. Is there a webcam associated with this therapy?
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  #12947 Posted 3 Years, 5 Months ago
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This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
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  #12949 Posted 3 Years, 5 Months ago
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Hey wait a minute I know Frank Zappa and believe me this twit is not Frank
Zappa..
Like many intellectuals, he was incapable of saying a simple thing in a simple way.
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  #12950 Posted 3 Years, 5 Months ago
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Actually, "Chink" is specific to Chinese. "Nip" for Japanese, "Gook" for Vietnam or Korea.

Anyway, "Chink" used to be specific to Chinese. In some parts of the
USA, it evolved into a slur to be used against anyone, regardless of their race.

now you are really screwed http://www.infernalpress.com/Columns/election.html
http://www.scoop.co.nz/mason/stories/HL0307/S00065.htm
One half of the world cannot understand the pleasures of the other. - Jane Austen, 1775 - 1817
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  #12951 Posted 3 Years, 5 Months ago
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Back when I started playing (early 70's), you owned Fender, Gibson, or garbage. Competition is a good thing. We can only hope that the execs at
Gibson and Fender know that today's players compare their goods to those at half (or less) the price. It will keep them honest.

At some point, it will be sink or swim.
I hate war as only a soldier who has lived it can, only as one who has seen its brutality, its futility, its stupidity.
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  #12953 Posted 3 Years, 5 Months ago
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Yep...I have a '99 Hyundai Elantra, and it's been an excellent car. My son will be in the 5th grade when the warranty runs out, and he was 4 weeks old when we bought it. Quality-wise, this car is every bit as good as a Toyota or Honda, almost every available option on those cars is stock on the Hyundai, and we only spent $12k!

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  #12957 Posted 3 Years, 5 Months ago
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In 30-40 years? With Epiphone Elite, may LAST YEAR (quality-wise, that is).

This is speculation. I haven't had ben able to locate an Epi Elite LP to demo.
...which may be a good sign, if they ain't on the floor, they could be in a guitarist's hands already.
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  #12959 Posted 3 Years, 5 Months ago
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I'm not sure about that, but I think that I read that Samick set up a piano manufacturing facility in China.
I hate war as only a soldier who has lived it can, only as one who has seen its brutality, its futility, its stupidity.
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  #12962 Posted 3 Years, 5 Months ago
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I just got a new Epi Dot Deluxe.

I own a few high end guitars and this one is really up there for the money www.eazi-k.com/guitar - my toys http://www.gear-review.co.uk/ - my review site
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  #12965 Posted 3 Years, 5 Months ago
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Some time ago a shop owner was bragging about his "excellent quality" overpriced Spector semi-hollow basses. A few days after that, I was scrolling down the street and suddenly I see the same bass, down to every detail except the letters at the headstock, in a store. It was a Samick, and needless to say it was also much cheaper.
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  #12970 Posted 3 Years, 5 Months ago
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...> But it is indeed semi-hollow - the main difference btw the two is that

What I meant is that the bass & treble bouts are connected unlike a 335 style which has a solid block running the the entire length of the body. The
AK block is only under the bridge / tailpiece - I haven't as yet investigated whether it's part of the tail block or not. Mine is a tobacco sunburst with an embarassingly flamey top. How's yours?
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