Fender Stratocaster Info

Hi Ya'll:
I have a couple of questions I would like help on. I have a Fender Stratocaster Serial #MN61077821 can anyone tell me anything about the guitar? Such as; The year it was made? The Model #?, Worth?, Wher I can get a Owner's Manual?, etc
Thanks,
BBB

Hi Kcbuck, welcome to the forum


I think this model was made in 1960, but to give an estimate on the value I really can't. I would guess it is around $500-1200 or the whereabouts...

How did you determine that this model number (I don't know the model # as there is no information on the guitar other than "Stratocaster and the Serial Number" was manufactured in the 1960's. I know it's an older model but it is in primo condition, not a scratch on it.... and so easy to play. Did I just stumble into a good deal or what?
Regards,
kcbuck

I'd ask that you recheck that serial number. The only Fender serial numbers I have ever heard of beginning with MN are the Mexican made series that started in 1990. MN6 would be a MIM version from 1996. The part I don't get is the MN6 + 7 digits. No body has that listed. If it is a MIM model, it will only be worth half of a USA model, probably 300-400 bucks.

this (the following link) is the Fender Stratocaster serial number chart. Perhaps this can help you further:

click here please

I saw the fender listing and you are correct concerning the number of digits that follow the "MN6". "M" equals Mexican Made, the "N" equals made in the 1990's, and the "6" equals made in 1996. I contacted fender and they identified the guitar as a "Traditional Stratocaster" manufactured from 1996 to January 1997 where they dropped this model, why? They didn't mention. It was made in Mexico on July 14, 1996 with a MSRP, at that time of $299.99. In todays market I quess $299.99 would be about doubled so I'm considering this a $600.00 guitar in today's market pricing for new. Would you agree with that???? It's primo, not a scratch on it, must have been in someones attic for the last 12 years or so.... before I bought it.
Thanks for your efforts in assisting me with this and best regards to you,
Kevin

The prices go up with those guitars instead of down with time?

OK, I have to admit I know next to nothing about stratocaster pricing, so if this sounds dumb, please disregard

Actually Slash, guitar prices tend to follow current market value or in other words what it would cost today. Collector's vintage guitars break those rules, but that is not what we are talking about here. And nothing you say ever sounds dumb, thanks for keeping this place interesting.

As far as value is concerned, currently a Mexican Strat can be purchased new for about $350-$425. A guitar purchased on eBay usually goes for about 60-80% of new, if you are lucky. The last guitar I bought on eBay was a $1000 Tele for $600. So if you assume you will get 80% of new, due to the condition, that would be a good guess. That being said, 80% of a $400 guitar, will sell at $320 minus selling fees.

I hope that helps.

Makes sense to me.... Case closed!!!! Now about my new posting, The "Dsus4add2" chord.... anyone with a chord chart out there? Not on JGuitar.com. Think I'll just play a "Dsus4" if no one can help me out - I'm lost in the music.... The chord is in "No Sugar Tonight" by Who?
Picks & Frets,
kcbuck

A simple chord construction exercise...

D major = 1 3 5 or D F# A
Dsus4 = 1 4 5 or D G A
Dsus4add2 = 1 2 4 5 or D E G A
fingering goes like this X02233

Kinda like a Dsus2 and a Dsus4 added togheter.

What? Can use send me a picture? I'm not all the bright.... I play by a tin ear. A chord chart for this chord would seal the deal.

TulsaWayne thank you ever so much for explaining to me the price-structures. It does clarify a whole lot for me now

Kcbuck, do you read music notes?

As well as Ray Charles and Stevie Wonder does - that would be a no and I have a tin ear from the flight line, no high picth. I hear everything in bass....
Regards,
kcbuck

Heya, kcbuck - how do you compose music then? According to the sound?

Seeing eye/ear dawg.

Dsus4add2

E |---|--- |-●-|---|---|
B |---|--- |-●-|---|---|
G |---|-●-|--- |---|---|
D |---|-●-|--- |---|---|
A |---|--- |--- |---|---|this string open
E |---|--- |--- |---|---|this string not used


Does this help?

Post edited by: TulsaWayne, at: 2008/05/01 16:16

Post edited by: TulsaWayne, at: 2008/05/01 16:18

Thanks, but now I have two diagrams and they don't match. JGuitar.com finally sent one to me which basically showed an A7sus4 chord with the only difference being that you don't play the A and E strings. They (JGuitar) say it's B string 3rd fret and open D, G, and e strings.... Frig it, I'll flip a coin I guess....

Now the question is what one is right????

Wow, an "A" chord with no "A" note in it.

What will they think of next?




Post edited by: TulsaWayne, at: 2008/05/01 23:29

Post edited by: TulsaWayne, at: 2008/05/05 13:40

Okay, I understand what you are saying above. One Question though, all the other D Chords that I have seen and used only utilize the D string down (D,G,B,e) and not the A or E, is this chord an exception to the rule?

Not really an exception, but let me explain chord structure and I think that will help. A chord is made up of a triad, which is 3 notes. The major chords (like a D major) is made up up the 1st, 3rd and 5th notes of the scale. In the case of the D major, those notes would be D, F# and A. The first note in the triad should be the ROOT of the scale or the number 1 note. In other words, a " D major" chord has a D note first, "A major" an A note first and so on. There are situations where the first note isn't the root note but those are called inversions and is a lesson for another day.

So, the reason you don't use the E or A strings on a first position D major chord is simply because your fingers aren't long enough. The closest D on the A string is at the 5th fret and on the E sting, the 10th. So we just ignore those two strings. Remember, we want the ROOT of the chord, the D note to be first note or as we say, the bass note.

I hope that was clear enough to be a help to you.

Post edited by: TulsaWayne, at: 2008/05/02 15:01

uuuh? Now I told ya'll I wasn't all that bright, play by a tin ear and have a eye/ear dawg and you sent me the above. I repeat, uuuh? Do I play the JGuitar chord or should I play the one you sent or doesn't it matter? I'm still confused and starting to get a head ache..... and those voices are getting louder - I'm calling my Doctor!!!! The pressure, the pressure.... maybe I should take up bowling?

As long as you add the open A string to the JGuitar chord version, play it, it is simpler.

TulsaWayne although I don't understand in this I DO want to say that I think it's very kind of you sharing the knowledge you have on this subject

Got it, finger on B string thrid fret and play all other strings open except big E. This is the same as A7sus4.....

Actually the A7sus4 also has the D string fretted at the second fret.

I'm not sure if I buy everything JGuitar.com says. Try http://www.chordfind.com/

Post edited by: TulsaWayne, at: 2008/05/05 13:23

Wayne:
JGuitar has 4 diagrams for a A7sus4 chord and the ones we are talking about are half of them. We are both right depending upon which version of the chord you are talking about. Check in out on JGuitar.com, chick on chord search, and enter chord.... Why do you doubt JGuitar any particular reason?
kcbuck

Yes JGuitar shows 4 fingerings for a A7sus4

The first and fourth are correct.

The second and third ones have no "E" in them, so they can't be A7, or a Asus4 or a A7sus4 by definition. They are actually A7sus4No5. So in the future, 4when I need information that I don't have to verify each time, I know I won't go to JGuitar.com.

That's why. There are many better places to go out there with valid information.

Post edited by: TulsaWayne, at: 2008/05/10 00:46

Thank you TulsaWayne.... Which site would you recommend for chord searches?
kcbuck